Philosophical+Issues

Michael's GROUPPIE

Philosopher..

1-10 - In order for one to succeed, they have to leave others behind. Like stepping stones, the moment you step on them to proceed, you will forget about them. All you know that you have reached your goal. 10-20 - Genius verses hard workers. No matter how hard one works to reach a goal they are trying to proceed, they will never be better than those that are just naturally talented at doing such things. Like pulling your legs through your arms, then putting your arms back to the original position. 20-30 - With luck, the most unexpected events will happen. Secluding in the mountains for 7 years, Grenouille avoids the war. 30-40 - Sometimes, the only way to earn the rights to use facilities is to lie. 40-50 - People are blind, people easily believe in what they see and what they feel, not knowing that it may be a lie. Like Grenouille’s scent, they see that he is handsome and feel he is divine so they believe he is like ‘god’.


 * There seems to be a suggestion of the idea of karma. “bad” actions bring about “bad” luck and “good” actions bring about good luck. In other words, what goes around comes around. Madame Gaillard, Grimal the tanner, and Baldini all die after Grenouille’s departure. Each group contributes one idea for each of the 10-chapter sections.

· Make sure that the information is saved on a Word document first, and be careful about overwriting each other as you post. · After all contributions have been posted, one group will take responsibility for organizing and refining this page by arranging the information in according to subject.
 * Ideas should be posted in chronological order and include page numbers whenever possible.

1. Grenouille’s extraordinarily keen sense of smell makes him a genius, however, his retarded speech development is regarded by many to be a sign of his lack of intelligence. Thus different types of intelligence make different types of intelligence. 2. Odors are presented as powerful influences. “Odors have a power of persuasion stronger that that of words, appearances, emotion, or will. The persuasive power of odor cannot be fended off, it enters into us like breath into our lungs, 9iit fills us up, imbues us totally. There is no remedy for it. 3. There seems to be a suggestion of the idea of karma. “bad” actions bring about “bad” luck and “good” actions bring about good luck. In other words, what goes around comes around. Madame Gaillard, Grimal the tanner, and Baldini all die after Grenouille’s departure. 4. There is an emerging trend describing Grenouille’s source of motivation. After finding the girl in Paris, he is afraid to lose that scent, so he learns to extract scents from Baldini. He is afraid of the fog in the cave, and so he disguises his odorlessness with perfume. He is afraid of running out of girl’s scents, so he kills more girls.
 * Jerry's Salon Group: **

Grenouille is motivated by his fear. 5. Although Grenouille works diligently his entire life, enduring the oppression of others during his childhood, and finally creates the most divine perfume that can command mankind, he merely goes back to Paris, his birth place, and dies there. He has barely left a mark upon the world apart from the 25 girls he murdered. Even the town of Grasse forgot him in just 2-3 weeks after the incident.

Group Riowena, Henry, John & Jocelyn:

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§ When faced with a goal or challenge should we just work on it the entire way through without breaks, or should we work on it a little every time and then finish it in a long term period? ======

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§ Grenouille was lost in his world of dreams, and illusions, this is similar to our video gaming lives, so is stepping away from reality necessarily a bad thing? ======

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§ What kind social paradigms have been established for the relationship between fathers and daughters? What is the significance of Richis’ relationship with his daughter? ======

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§ Love has always been the most powerful motivation for acts both great and terrible, how does Grenouille and the people he influences support this statement? ======

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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">§ What is the significance of the mass deception exhibited in Grenouille’s escape from execution? Are there such examples present in today’s society? ======

<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">§ Can an act of love stem from something as unethical as cannibalism? What motives would compel such action?
Michael/Shavonne/Maryanne/Wendy

<span style="font-family: Cambria,serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Chp. 1-10Grenouille’s birth goes against fate, he wasn’t meant to live, foreshadows the negative impact that he may have in the future or separates him from the rest, marking him as special.

<span style="font-family: Cambria,serif;"> Chp. 11-20 Grenouille makes transition from tick to spider, from passive to semi-active; signifies a change in his perspective towards his life or perhaps his goal in life.

<span style="font-family: Cambria,serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Chp. 21-30 <span style="font-family: Cambria,serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">When Grenouille is all cleaned up, people treat him differently. Shows the nature of people and how they look at people’s looks first.

<span style="font-family: Cambria,serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">Chp. 31-40 <span style="color: #2a2a2a; font-family: Cambria,serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">“No one in the house had heard the least noise, and although the dogs normally yelped the moment they picked up the scent of any stranger, not one of them had barked. The murderer seemed impalpable, incorporeal, like a ghost.” Pg.197 <span style="color: #2a2a2a; font-family: Cambria,serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"> Grenouille's scentless nature seems to aid him in many of his endeavors,giving him the advantage of inconspicuousness; it is as if Grenouille was born to complete his goal of creating the perfume.

<span style="color: #2a2a2a; font-family: Cambria,serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;">Chp. 41-51 There is a lot of color in the book, <span style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white; color: #2a2a2a; font-family: Cambria,serif; font-size: 10.5pt;"> Richis wakes up to this beautiful day that is so colourful but then he finds his dead daughter and everything is black and down (Pg.220-221)